How Will ObamaCare Affect Medicare?





As the health care debate grinds along many senior citizens are worried that their benefits will be cut to the bone in order to pay for the changes proposed in ObamaCare. Many politicians and pundits have been spreading the doom and gloom vile that these cuts will be made on the backs of senior citizens now receiving Medicare insurance. This is nothing more than political hype.

Where will the cuts to Medicare come from?

Despite the doom and gloom tactics of some members of congress and talking heads, the cuts will come from two prime sources; (1) eliminating Medicare fraud, estimates are that this fraud cost tax payers 60 billion dollars annually and (2) a reduction in the amount of payments that are paid into Medicare Advantage programs that are offered by private insurance companies.

Will Physicians Medicare payments be cut under this plan?

There have been rumors that the ObamaCare plan will drastically cut payment to doctors by up to 21% and institute harsh draconian control over billing procedures of doctors participating in the Medicare plan. This is true in the sense that physician payments are to be cut. These cuts have been in the making long before ObamaCare ever became even a bit of hope but instead were developed in 2002 by the Clinton administration but has been deferred for years but now has come time for these changes to go into effect. This is not a direct result of ObamaCare or the signing of any legislation by President Obama. These cuts have been deferred and as of present situation will continue to be deferred.

Will hospital experience deep cuts?

There is nowhere in the ObamaCare that states that any hospital will be forced to make cuts unwillingly. The estimated $155 billion worth of cuts over ten years are to be negotiated between hosptial administration and hospital associations. No cuts that hospitals were unwilling to accept or were deemed as not doable were cut.



124 Responses to “How Will ObamaCare Affect Medicare?”

  1. barbara lopez says:

    You might want to reread the paragraph about physicians medical payments cause I doubt that Clinton’s administration had anything to do with 2002.

    • Second Sight says:

      If established record is of importance, ObamaCare, if carried by Congress, will take out Medicare and Medicaid operative for Senior Citizens now.

      How many of you know or remember that immediately upon taking office after beginning his first term, Barack Obama FROZE the modest payments EARNED by all working citizens to provide a subliminal poverty level income when seniors are no longer able to work.

      Yet, Mr. Obama borrowed millions of dollars for his pet projects from the Social Security fund that did not even belong to him or the federal, state, or county governments. Pure unadulterated theft, in my opinion.

      Doesn’t this offend the Liberals? I struggle to help support my mom but I am widowed and raising my five children. I try but cannot raise her from the extreme poverty level.

      This second term of Mr. Obama reveals what his real limitations are, as he bounces around with incredible inept logic, which he expects us to pay for.

      I’ve been a life-long Democrat. I no longer can recognize the Liberal philosophy at the White House. I shudder to think what B.O. has in mind for the future.

      • Gem Mimms says:

        That’s too bad. The democrats are the only defense you have against a Republican Party that wants to steal yor earned medicare and social security benefits and hand them over to more costly private corporations.

        • Jack T says:

          Well said Second Sight. Glad some Democrats are waking up.

        • MEDATON says:

          Igorance should prevent one from posting on the internet!

          • Stone Woman says:

            Ignorance should also prelude one from VOTING!!

          • Ken G says:

            What does ignorance mean in your opinion? Does it mean ignorance if an opinion does not agree with yours? Does it mean ignorance should eliminate you from the roles of voting if the party you vote for is different than the one you like and vote for? Be careful what you wish for. Yes there are people voting that have no understanding or knowledge of their candidates or issues. It is the job of those that do to educate those that don’t. It is the voters decision how he votes those candidates and issues.

          • gordy threehorses says:

            if voting really worked, the government would have outlawed it years ago.

        • tom says:

          Oh Yeah! I believe it was Democrat LBJ who robbed SS to fund the Vietnam War! Also, Democrat Jimmy Carter who gave out free cheeze at taxpayer expense!

          • ginger says:

            You are so right but these people have been brainwashed. The Democratic party that Daddy voted for was completely different from the one today. Those who vote for a party because Daddy did, need to wake up and take note.

          • super sport says:

            AMEN, TO MUCH OF THIS GOES ON. I SY VOTE THEM ALL OUT, COULDN’T BE ANY WORSE.

        • Texas Gal says:

          Gem Mimms, sorry but you have absolutely no idea of what you speak. The democrats under Lyndon Johnson were the first to use the Social Security funds for other purposes. After his initial robbing the SS fund, it has continued to be used to balance the budget and used for other welfare programs,ie.SSI. You need to do some research for the truth before you make such outlandish statements. People who do not make the effort to get at the truth in issues continue to believe the lies that Liberals spew.

        • Len Tusa says:

          That is not true,evidently you’ve been fed false information.What elected official wiould atempt such a suicidal plan, when their only goal is getting re-elected so they can continue their power and cushy lifestyle !!!

        • Mary B says:

          What a crock! How would this stealing be accomplished?

      • Marilyn Van Natta says:

        Gem Mimms,You need to do an actual history research as to which party has voted time and again to use social security money for purposes other than the original intent.You speak without knowing the facts.It is the democratic party that has stolen it for years.They even voted to have our retirement social security payments taxed.Looks like you fell for the lies.

        • grammaK says:

          It is the Democratic Party who stole it for years????? OK, give me the facts on that, so I can look it up. I like to investigate before I instigate.

          • j says:

            Just wondering if marilyn van natta is going to post the source of her statements. I’d like to look at that too.

          • Icthelite says:

            If your making comments on sights such as these then you should know how to check your facts before making a comment. Do your own due diligence and stop relying on someone else to make things easier for you.

          • Jimbo says:

            Clinton actually used the Social Security surplus to balance the budget

      • Kenneth Harris says:

        You are so out of touch with the truth. I am sure you voted for Obama. How is that working out for you? Which one do you like the most? IRS NASA or Benghazi? Try to keep up as hard as it is for you. People like you should not vote.

      • Fran Mason says:

        I really really cannot believe that all you liberals really think that the republicans are going to steal your social security. I am on social security and I worry about this crazy dumb president and Harry Ried. Oh and let’s not leave out Nancy Pelosi. For someone to say” you have to pass it to read it” is about the dumbest statement I have ever heard from an elected official. I am worried about my medicare. Obama took $716 billion out of that. It is in effect with the doctors and hospitals against seniors already. It has affected me and my husband already. The congress was also elected. One of their functions is to balance the budget and they cannot even get the president to work with them on that. And the name calling that Reid and Obama does is un american and shameful. I’m going to bed.

        • blanco says:

          Fran, I totally agree with you. For Pelosi to say, “You have to pass it so we can see what’s in it”, is so repulsive. It sounds like she’s requesting a stool sample!

      • frank says:

        Second site
        I respect your opinion and sympathize with your family situation.
        You blaming Obama for borrowing from social security is not completely fair because congress is the one that approves this borrowing.
        It is my understanding that every president since LBJ has borrowed from social security. If by your description, democrats and republicans are guilty of thievery, then I agree!
        LBJ made this thievery possible by shifting funds from the social security trust fund to the general fund to finance our hideous mistake in Vietnam!
        Best wishes to you second site

      • wyselady says:

        There is not now nor has there ever been a social security fund or account. Money paid into social security by employers and employees go into the general accounting fund and are spent by congress every year for current expenses, including benefit payments to existing recipients. It was always assumed that there would be more coming in each year than being paid out, but now that Baby Boomers are retiring there is increasingly more being paid out than is being withheld because there are fewer workers in Gen X. The president has no power to spend any money at all. Congress must decide how to spend and when to spend, which is why the gov’t shut down in Oct and will again in Feb.

        • G. Leonardi says:

          And let us not forget the thousands, if not millions, of jobs that have been outsourced to other nations which results in fewer dollars in the SS fund. Connect the dots, folks.

    • Carly says:

      Here is the truth:
      Franklin Roosevelt set up Social Security saying that the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the 
      general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program.   

      It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate that took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the 
      general fund so that Congress could spend it?

      Under democrats Clinton & Gore the promise that annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income was changed so that up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed. 

      Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party then gave Immigrants moving into this country Social Security payments at age 65 years even though they never paid a dime into it!  

      ———— — ———— ——— —– ———— ——— ——— “Obama supports cuts to the Social Security program. He’s following through on his promises to get control over these “costly” entitlement programs. He also supports raising the retirement age and lowering the rate at which cost of living adjustments are made.  His stance on Social Security? He views it as something that needs to be reformed, which it does. Historically, he has indicated that this should be done through reducing the total amount of benefit payouts and increasing the efficiency of what is widely regarded as a bloated and unnecessarily expensive program.”

      • Denise says:

        Carly,
        Thanks for the information. I can’t help but wonder why it is NO Politician has ever figured out what was done way back then, should be undone. Social Security isn’t secure now at all. I am one who is at the very low end of Social Security received each month/year. It isn’t that I haven’t worked either, I just had low paying jobs and did manual labor for most of my work history. I would love to hear just 1 Presidential Candidate promise to reverse what you wrote about what happened to the Social Security Administration Franklin Roosevelt started. You said ” Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate that took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it.” That would be a President worth voting for but I seriously doubt that happening since nearly every time I hear anything from the 35 and under portion of the United States they seem to believe seniors should just die and make room for the young. It is sad they don’t realize time will also pass for them and it will come their turn to be in a group many appear to wish dead.

  2. Stephanie says:

    The cuts took effect in 2002. They were in an act signed by President Clinton in 1997. The cuts have been differed, all but 1 year, since 2002. So, while his sentence is confusing, he’s right.

  3. Ann Feeney says:

    $60 billion dollars a year and something is just being done about it. Hogwash !!

  4. andrew says:

    what kind of Leftest answer is this. ” Long before ObamaCare ever became even a bit of hope”. Give me a break.

    • Dan says:

      I don’t know if it’s particularly “leftist”. I think the author was just saying that long before Obamacare was even in its development stages, the changes had been in place (but deferred).

      • Barb says:

        It should have said that then instead of interjecting the author’s opinion into it. Everything on this site has someone’s opinion in it. Somewhat like subliminal messages to get people to go along with how they think. Give us the freaking FACTS and intelligent people can figure the rest out on our own.

  5. Carol Mickle says:

    I agree 100% with what Ann Feeney said. “…eliminating Medicare fraud, estimates are that this fraud cost tax payers 60 billion dollars annually.” So before the gov’t just let this fraud go, even tho it’s, apparently, going to be as easy to recover as ‘that’ (snapping fingers there) and use for Obamacare. If it’s that easy to recover why hasn’t it been done before?? Coz it’s not easy to do, won’t be easy to do, and ain’t gonna happen. What we’ll see is even more fraud and waste, thereby making Obamacare cost even more. Two things Obamacare doesn’t do that would’ve helped, heck would’ve helped our system the way it is: let people get medical insurance across state lines (now we are limited to what is offered in our state); competition helps drive prices down. AND tort reform. Obamacare doesn’t address tort meaning once it’s in effect and people sue, the gov’t will probably end up paying out the judgement, instead of doctors and insurance companies. The ‘government’ meaning us….

    • Dan says:

      It is amazing that so much fraud was allowed to go on for so long. But if you check the news and the Medicare Fraud website, you will see large increases in the amount of fraud being uncovered and prosecuted since the Obamacare was signed into law.

    • tom says:

      How much will gov. inspectors costs us to dig up the fraud?

      • j says:

        The would not cost as much as the fraud they dig up. Consider – average salary – at the high end a 100K. Consider the average level of fraud – 500k and upwards. (I was being conservative – the two cases that I read about – the fraud was in the millions of dollars. Even if you hired 5 investigators at 100K, you would still come out ahead.)

        • bcareie says:

          So Obama is gonna cut into people commiting fraud and pay for Obamacare? Really, Get real; the government has robbed our taxes for years to pay for the beauracratic wishes of the pressure groups who fund their campaigns and put them in office. Why hasn’t immigration been fixed. Ever think it might be because of the votes that would be lost if someone tried.

    • del says:

      As usual most of these anti-obamacare statements are full of misinformation

  6. Skip says:

    The ladies are right. Big government cannot even balance a budget nevermind control fraud, waste, and abuse in a program as huge as Obamacare, especially now that he has made 14,000,000 illegal aliens eligible for low cost or free care under the medicare or medicaid components of the program.

    • j says:

      Let’s stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and stop spending trillions of dollars to show that we are the baddest country in the world? Come on now – even if the goal was to create political stability or regime change – didn’t that occur already?

  7. mr burns says:

    716 billion over 10 years has already been cut from medicare in order to help pay for obamacare.Yet this isnt mentioned anywhere in the article .

    • Dan says:

      The “cuts” are from the growth curve of Medicare. Just like the “cuts” to the military only reduce its growth, not a baseline reduction.

      It’s like if you were expecting a 10% raise each year but your employer decided to “cut” your salary by only giving you a 2% raise each year instead.

      • Eric says:

        Think you need to look at what you wrote. Expecting a 10% raise but only get a 2% raise?? He/she still got the 2%…so his/her pay wasn’t cut.

      • Barb says:

        It is also like some seniors who worked all their lives and expected medicare when they retired (BECAUSE THEY PAID INTO IT) were told that they make too much money being retired so they have to stick with their own insurance.

  8. Concerned Patient says:

    This article is misleading to Seniors. One will note that AARP ( who is basically an Insurance company, not an advocacy group) sold Seniors down the River. ObamaCARE made CUTS to Medicare to pay for ObamaCare. The CBO was very clear that these cuts could only be used to pay for ObamaCare, not to make Medicare more solvent. Obama lied and double counted the savings. Seniors Beware. ObamaCare is far worse than you can ever imagine.ObamaCare sets up and IABP panel that will dictate what care will and won’t be paid for instead of your doctor. ObamaCare gives the DHS Sec. tremendous power. She has already said the long term care provision in ObamaCAre cannot and will not be done. Thousands and Thousands of waivers have been granted. One good thing about this discussion about Medicare ?? It reminds us of the atrocities of ObamaCare.

  9. Obviously not, I had the Medigap from AARP until I started checking it out and found that I could save as much as 40% from what I was paying AARP for the same plan. AARP is in business of taking care of itself.

    • deborah says:

      I have found the same thing – right or wrong their goal is self survival- not senior’s wallets

      • j says:

        Same here – when I was investigating rates for my mother. Wish people would actually start thinking critically and rationally instead of being lazy and listening to someone rant and rave.

  10. Barb Patten says:

    I tried once to report fraud to medicare and medicaid and they told me flat out that they could not just come out and acuse anyone of fraud and told me to reslove the issue with the provider myself. So what good does it do to report it??

    • Julie Williams says:

      I have reported Medicare fraud as far as a Dr was concerned. I was able to show that charges were made for procedures that were not done and the Dr lost his right to accept Medicare patients. That makes 1 less Dr patients I could go to for care, but I am sure it was the best for everyone. Keep track, a journal or some type of record, of all appointments, all procedures/tests/etc.. and check them against the charges submitted to Medicare. Maybe it is hard to point fingers and prove, but the more records you keep, the more ammunition you have when talking to Medicare.

  11. Rick Runion says:

    Hey folks I’ve been listening to a lot of hype and rhetoric about this business. I am only 49 but I was forced onto Medicare a year and a half ago as a disabled vet. My mom on the other hand is in a nursing home and without Medicare our family would be in unbelievable debt paying her bills. And I may have to use these benefits for the rest of my life which God willing could be 30 to 40 years. You are all just as concerned because many of you know exactly what I’m talking about first hand.
    The so called savings they keep talking about haven’t happened yet and no one has actually lined out a budget that we can see exactly where they are coming from (counting the chickens before they hatch).
    We paid for Medicare through a Medicare tax on every paycheck we made with the promise that we would receive good healthcare in our retirement. None of us were told that our money was going to be a big piggy bank that a bunch of bureaucrats could use to fund some new national health care plan that includes the entire country (robbing Peter to Pay Paul).
    If they can save 60 billion dollars a year in fraud then that 60 billion should stay in the program that it was meant for.
    The entire Obamacare plan is nothing more than a big conglomerated monstrosity of regulations designed to give the loyal followers of a young inexperienced politician something to chant for his next election. It needs to be thrown out and replaced by some good commonsense legislation that will actually do something.

    • sandra says:

      I totally agree. I will be 46 on march 3rd and was forced on disability 4 years ago due to degeneritive disk disease, petruding disk, narrowing around the spinel cord, fluid buildup around spinel cord and the list goes on. I wish could work but can’t sowhats gonna happen to people like us who paid for these benefits they are trying to take away. Let the so called president and positions take some of their salaries and luxuries that we only deam about and get us outs debt. We can’t even make ends meet and they live high on the mountain tryin to kill us out.

    • grammaK says:

      maybe if all those politicians had to forfeit their criminally abundant retirement benefits and put the funds into medicare, and have to take the same benefits as the people they serve when they retire, the medicare fund would be bursting at the seams with enough money. Just sayin’

      We elected them. What makes them so special that they screw with our money, but never have to deal with the consequence of that???? If they had to be subject to the same thing we are, do you think medicare would be in trouble????? NOT!!!!!

      • j says:

        Yup – our elected officials should have the exact same benefits that we get. Unfortunately – if you haven’t noticed – all our elected officials in congress and senate are millionaires. Do you think a man as wealthy as Romney (17 million AFTER taxes) worries about the cost of a medical procedure or physiotherapy or medicine? After these politicians leave their elected office – they become lobbyists and then they really pull in the money with 6 figure salaries.

  12. Sharon says:

    So…this is my problem. You state in the article:

    “Despite the doom and gloom tactics of some members of congress and talking heads, the cuts will come from two prime sources; (1) eliminating Medicare fraud, estimates are that this fraud cost tax payers 60 billion dollars annually and (2) a reduction in the amount of payments that are paid into Medicare Advantage programs that are offered by private insurance companies.”

    Then (correct me if I’m wrong), this means that Medicare Advantage programs will be going away because of the reduction in payments that are paid into it???? This will raise the cost of the Advantage programs to the point that Seniors won’t be able to afford them and they will fall by the wayside?

    If so, then weren’t the Republicans right? What are Seniors to do? Seriously.

  13. Jim says:

    This is related to how much money there is in the medical field. A relatively new business sets up a cabinet with drugs in doctor offices that only do workman’s com. I know one manager of these mini pharmacies. One doctor makes $30,000 a month on these drugs and the company makes $30,000 a month after paying all costs. Coding on medical bills makes it nearly impossible to find out what you are charged. 2 days in the hospital and the bill is $14,000. No details. A detailed bill will take a month to get and loaded with errors. ALWAYS check what you owe against what the insurance company says you owe. I received 14 bills from over the course of several years from a hospital that wanted me to pay the discounted amount when in fact I owed nothing. Each bill was “Final notice. Maybe turned over to a collection agency after 10 days.” when in fact it was the first time I saw the bill. Another change should be limit the award settlement for malpractice. But then Congress is loaded with lawyers.

  14. I hear a really lot of negativity. A lot of opinions that have Obama”s plan not possible and will fail. I choose to think in the positive and I am not going to say a plan will not work before it even is given the proper chance to prove it will work. And NO i am not in some fantasy land. I am a 71 yr old woman who has been in this world long enough to have gained a lot of knowledge and wisdom. Do you have a health care plan idea? Do your self a favor and let your self have trust that Obama just might be right.

    • Katie says:

      Are you out of your mind?

    • Ladymudd says:

      I work in a level 2 trauma center…”Trust”? Really? ANYONE putting their faith in Obamacare,is indeed living in a fantasy land. Just wait ’til the facts that we here are seeing all come out in reality..

      • CrazyCoonass says:

        Absolutely.

        • kim says:

          The problem is the people. I am 68 and I do not take medications, Ido not run and check my cholesterol, and get test. If I feel good why would I tell them to look for something. We are the unhealthiest country. Stop the damn chemicals in you shampoo, soap, food. Start taking care of yourselves and you will see prices come down, because if you do not use the services and live healthy things will change.

    • DeeFee says:

      You are nuts! Knowledge and wisdom? I sure hope that will help your pocketbook when Ovomit’s plan hits you there! Good luck is all I can say for you lady.

  15. abe says:

    are doctors going to see a patient only twice a year starting 10/1/2012

  16. Tracie says:

    Here’s the real problem: insurance companies will be allowed to change rates on EVERYONE because they can’t charge higher premiums to those with pre-existing conditions so they raise the rate across the board to make up for lost profits. Then Medicare pays less to doctors and hospitals which means the difference is billed back to the patient. Think paying your deductible and copayment is all your responsible for? They can actually demand you pay all of it and wait for insurance to reimburse you by refusing to handle the paperwork (as was explained to me by our ONLY hospital for 30 mile radius) they are not obligated to bill Medicare directly, they can bill the patient and it’s upto the patient to get all the forms and proof in to Medicare and wait for payment so basically the one getting paid less due to direct payments being stopped would be patients as the in network discounts may or may not actually be there and we dot know what to negotiate a far as the provider discounts.

  17. lillian says:

    I hear also that we will only to go to the doctor once a year like in canada. What will happen to the people that have kidney diasly or cancer or heart disease?

    • Michael says:

      Lillian, please go to: “medicare.gov” in order to get straight answers to your concerns. What you have “heard” is apparently wrong – but please check out the facts for yourself.
      Here are some excerpts from the site regarding annual physicals (which no longer require a co-payment) and dialysis:
      ANNUAL PHYSICALS – You pay nothing for the “Welcome to Medicare” preventive visit or the yearly “Wellness” visit if the doctor accepts assignment. The Part B deductible doesn’t apply.

      However, if your doctor or other health care provider performs additional tests or services during the same visit that aren’t covered under these preventive benefits, you may have to pay coinsurance, and the Part B deductible may apply.

      DIALYSIS -
      (Kidney) services and supplies
      How often is it covered?

      Inpatient dialysis treatments: Medicare Part A (Hospital Insurance) covers dialysis if you’re admitted to the hospital for special care.
      Outpatient maintenance dialysis treatments: Medicare Part B (Medical Insurance) covers a variety of dialysis services if you get routine maintenance dialysis from a Medicare-certified dialysis facility.
      Training for home dialysis: Medicare Part B covers training if you’re a candidate for home dialysis, as well as training conducted during the course of your regular treatments for you and the person helping you with your home dialysis treatments. The training must be conducted by a dialysis facility that has been certified by Medicare to provide home dialysis training. You may qualify for training if you think you would benefit from self-dialysis training for at-home treatments, and your doctor approves. Training sessions will occur at the same time you get dialysis treatment and are subject to a maximum number of sessions.
      Home dialysis support services: Medicare Part B covers home dialysis support services provided by your dialysis facility. This may include visits by trained hospital or dialysis facility workers to check on your home dialysis, to help in emergencies when needed, and to check your dialysis equipment and water supply.

      • andy says:

        Misinformation about Canada has long been a tactic to prevent universal health care in the US.

        As a resident of the US for over 20 years who also lived in Canada for over 40 years, I can assure you that Canadian healthcare works! My 88 year old pensioner mother has 2 new knees, had cataract surgery and an atrial defibrillator and pays $ 2.00 per prescription.
        Seniors are treated like people instead of a market segment. The secret of affordability is that prescription drugs are cheaper, doctors generally make a decent, not extravagant living and hospitals are not private profit centers.
        Until we can reduce the cost of the supply side of medical care, we will struggle to afford any kind of universal healthcare.

        • Wayne says:

          I totally agree.The costs are outrageous.If they can be reigned in there may be hope for any medical program.But hospitals and drug companies, and insurance companies work on for profit margins;so it cannot happen.

  18. Marcy says:

    I am wondering if anyone realizes that this is

    not new-many presidents have tried to get a

    bill passed so all our Citizens may be covered

    with healthcare. Medicare Fraud has been going

    on for a long time and it seems that there has

    been nothing done about it in the past so

    hopefully this President will be able to remedy

    this.

  19. Joyce Johnson says:

    I asked my daughter today how has the Obamacare affected where she is the finaical Manager of a large medical establishment…so far she said the the Medicare B plan has been affected for long term patients..for instance…there is a woman who broke her foot…they will cast it, but provide no therapy as a treatment in mobility…also…if you sell a house you will pay 3% tax on the sell besides the regular tax you already get taken out…now how does that have anything to do with Obamacare?

  20. Joyce Johnson says:

    Forgot to mention…that in that Plan B..there is to be a cap on cost…even if more therapy is needed…

  21. arlene says:

    All I can say about obamacare is good bye to us seniors. face the fact we all will die a very young age.Don’t get sick. no need to think about sucide because the Govt. will help you and it will be legal.

  22. Obamacare is reducing care for seniors
    As October 1st 2012 medicare will only pay up to $1800.00 that is the new cap for therapy after an injury, that is about 8 visits, if you require more you pay!

  23. Herb says:

    The statements in this article sound more like political rationalizing in support of ObamaCare. I say hogwash!

    • Vin says:

      the more i read these remarks the more i see how the political fear tactic are motivating people who really don’t no anything about this plan except what they hear from their party.Obamacare Hasn’t even take effect. Obama spoke last week broke it down pretty well. but this doesn’t matter because if he has bright the people that have some kind of hate for him (possible sour grapes) say darlk and if he say dark they will say bright. this is not healthy for this country and it’s pe0ple who need help.

  24. Janice says:

    My Mother is a Medicare patient and is unable to get a dr appt because she is Medicare. This happened because she had to move from one state to another and they are not taking Medicare patients because of the lowered rates they will be receiving.

  25. steve says:

    I just read through 25 comments and nearly all of it sounded like ‘not in my backyard’ complaints or political posturing. I’m turning 65 this month, and expect to work for another 10 years. Medicare coverage is better and cheaper than what i’ve had for 15 years as a small business owner. Times are tough and cuts have to be made, suck it up Americans – that is what made this a great country. Or suggest something realistic that the politicians and medical providers can work with.

  26. Donna Pioli says:

    I wasn’t replying to this last message.
    I was replying when someone said that the Drs. Would no longer make the decisions about our care. I replied that the drs. Never had the final say, the insurance companies have!

  27. Gary Sabback says:

    I’m a 55 year old male married on disability and receive state retirement and SS income. I pay for medicare and my supplement combined into health insurance for my spouse and 21 yr old college daughter. I don’t know what so called “ObamaCare” is going to do for the majority of US citizens, illegal aliens, taxpayers (middle class) and no taxpayers (rich, cheaters, and poor)! And yes I pay taxes, insurance, and don’t qualify for special programs of which I’m aware.
    All of which leads me to the following:
    1) 33% of my monthly net income goes to life, health, home, and auto insurance of which health is the most expensive and confusing with the highest deductibles, coinsurance, exclusions, etc and I used to be in the insurance business.
    2) I don’t have faith in Congress, The President, and mostly the government bureaucracy!
    3) I don’t trust the insurance companies, financial corporations, or industry overall to be honest, fair, or care about their employees, the environment period!
    3) “Something Has Got To Be Done To Make It A Win-Win Situation For All”

  28. Sam C. Jones says:

    I want to trust that the money I paid into Medicare while I was working and not drawing any benefits make my elderly years safer and more comfortable.
    The fact is, I am paying more for Medicare itself, now than I did while I worked and had a viable income with prospect of raises.
    The fact is, I pay MUCH more for a MediGap plan that is supposed to keep me from paying medical bills on a per use basis–but will NOT pay anything, if Medicare does not pay.
    The fact is, Medicare coverage has become, not coverage, but a drop-in-the-bucket when compared to the charges stated by the medical community==Drs., Hospitals, Re-hab facilities, Nursing Homes.
    The fact is that Medicare has fixed payments whatever the purported “actual” charges. We as Medicare/MediGap payers into a system that keeps upping charges for coverage AND keeps upping “actual”
    charges have no choice, no say, and we lose in the end.
    It is a game with the players in it being Insurance Companies, Medical Companies of all stripes, and the
    Senators and Representatives of each and every state in the union. WE ARE THE PAWNS….

  29. PHILL STILES says:

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    STILL WORKING, I AM 70 AND CANNOT WORK AND
    MY INCOME IS FIXED AND WILL NEVER GO UP.
    MY SUPPLEMENTAL INS FOR MEDICARE STARTED AT
    $100 A MONTH 5 YRS AGO AND IS NOW $180.
    MY RENT, FOOD, GAS AND EVERYTHING GOES UP.
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    OF EXP. THAT ANYTHING THE GOVT IS INVOLVED IN
    COST MORE EACH YR AND MORE TAX DOLLARS ARE
    ALWAYS THROWN AT IT THAN WHAT IS PROMISED.
    BELIEVE ME PEOPLE THIS IS GOING TO COST US IN
    MORE WAYS THAN ONE.

  30. Yvonne says:

    I have worked in the medical field for several years. Most people have no idea much money is lost to Medicare fraud. I have often wondered how much $ could be saved by placing fraud investigation teams in every state. The punishment for Medicare fraud should be exclusion as a Medicare provider. Penalizing fraud by means of fines is futile. Fines allow criminals to pay up and go back to business as usual. It is one huge game that costs billions every year. I’d never have believed the amount of fraud had I not see it for myself. The Governor of Florida, Richard Scott, commited fraud on an epic scale and went on to rule a state with millions of Medicare recipients. So much for punishing the guilty….

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  35. Danther says:

    One major thing that everyone seems to miss discussing is the Doctor’s take on Obamacare. My wife works in the medical profession and constantly hears comments from physicians (family practice and surgeons) that many will either only take self-pay patients (no medicaid/medicare) or close their practices all together. Now, let’s add 14 million more illegal (oops, did I use that dirty word?) aliens and who is going to provide all of this medical care. Bottom line, longer waits for care, poorer care, and difficulty in finding a doctor that will even take you. A possible solution that is being bantered about, oh we can just use Physician Assistants more. Just what I want, someone with less medical education and less experience treating me. Hmmm, Costa Rica is looking better all the time. At least there I’m not being lied to by someone I didn’t vote for in the first place.

    • DeeFee says:

      Danther: I’m with you all the way. I worked for years in a medical setting and saw how physician’s assistants who could not figure out a diagnosis would then send the patient to see a physician….however, not before they (the PA) billed for an office call. So you go see the physician the next day and you get another office call. No thanks. I’ll take the physician first so I don’t have to go back a second time.

  36. Ron Pool says:

    Just an old 74 year old looking for some information about how Obamacare is going to impact me and my wife (68) when it is fully implemented. I am retired Navy, retired Civil Service and draw SS. I am diabetic who sees my Dr. bi-monthly. I have medicare, Blue Cross/Blue Shield and Tricare for life medical insurance coverages. I’ve been toying with the idea of cancelling BC/BS and depending on Medicare/Tricare. Good idea/bad idea? Can someone out there tell how this change is going to affect me in nitty-gritty detail? I’ve been trying to dope this out myself but there are so many pros and cons to any argument I can’t seem to get a straight answer on which to base any decision. Any takers? I’m all ears!

    • Herb Schmitt says:

      Ron,
      My wife and I are your ages.
      Dont know about “Tricare”.

      All I can offer is:
      1. Keep your supplement as long as you can.
      2. Enjoy each day the best you can
      3. We will all die someday.
      Bless

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  40. Adrian Serra says:

    wow .. I have been reading all of these and am quite amazed that you all have the answers .. you all simply answered your own questions and accusations .. BOTH parties have raided social security to fund whatever they wanted as there was always a surplus ..

    open your eyes folks , the fish stinks from the head down and NONE of us count , oh they may have you believing you do but all that is a game to turn us against each other .. Remember “United we stand; Divided we fall” ..

    Think before you point that finger, look in the mirror before you judge , just because the leader of the “free world” is bi-racial does not make him “perfect” , he is a product of the social system ..

    SOCIAL system .. in the end , all this bickering we will be in the same boat and then what ??

  41. rose petal says:

    OK. How do WE fix the problem ??? CAN WE ???

  42. Vin says:

    The more i read these remarks the more i see how the political fear tactic are motivating people who really don’t no anything about this plan except what they hear from their party.Obamacare Hasn’t even take effect. Obama spoke last week broke it down pretty well. but this doesn’t matter because if he has bright the people that have some kind of hate for him (possible sour grapes) say dark and if he say dark they will say bright. this is not healthy for this country and it’s pe0ple who need help.

  43. American Citizen says:

    We live in a world of rhetoric. If politician’s lips are moving they are lying. We as a people are not being heard by our politicians and it is time to clean house and get back to having true patriots represent the people sincerely and not seeking any political gain from it. We are all frustrated and the country has become divided and we have lost sight our American values. This has been magnified since 2008!

  44. Barb says:

    Why do they have to be political? Why can they not write an informative article and answer basic questions like “Will Obamacare effect my secondary insurance plan or the cost of my Part D plan” things that people on medicare truly need to know. I don’t need to know their opinion on how great they think socialized medicine is. That will prove itself.

  45. Charles Solomon says:

    Most of you have been listening to Rush Lamebrain (Limbuagh) too long! The

    • Len Tusa says:

      I don’ t listen to Rush Lamebrain, as you call him, but I do have common sense.The government cannot give you anything that it has not already taken from somebody else.

  46. Charlie says:

    Most of you have been listening to Rush Lamebrain too long! What it boils down to is this, Obama Care for Americans, or the Republican’s plan, We don’t Care for Americans!

    • Ted says:

      A past co-worker at AT&T has been offered 2 years pay to leave the role, they now pay 10% of their wages for Healthcare, if they leave per the CWA Union, the company HR, and their tax person, for the 2 years of wages offered would be 50% of the monies, plus a 25% tax on the 2 years of wages to be paid… so why and how can you take a early retirement knowing 75% is already gone to taxes and Obummercare?
      This is a True Comment, and where this healthcare thing is going. Take from this what you may, it is the Truth of what is Really going on.

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  48. Len Tusa says:

    sadly, it is true that the democratic party is responsible for diverting funds from social security to general fund and repaid with iou’s.There is no social security trust fund,only an account which takes tax dollars collected from todays workers to pay for todays social security recipients.I believe that when the baby boomers retire over the next ten years,the ratio of workers to retirees will be reversed and there will not be enough money to pay retirees,and there will be no social security at all! Every time anyone tries to propose “fixing” social security,they are called “extremests”, “cold hearted” and worse.People say they want change,until it affects them,they say politicians are evil,eccept there representatives are good guys.Until people realize that there representatives are looking out for there own self interest,not the people they representent,the state of our republic will continue to spiral downward, People must come to realize that they to must take care of themselves and look after their own self interest,which cannot be done with an ever growing and ever creeping government.

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    Enough of rumours. Medicare Advantage plan really HMO gets paid average $4300 every month paid to them by us, and deny everything .. They even started adding copays and also added thousands of dollars good deductible every time hospitalized. They are bankrupted medicare. Bush gang enacted this into law late one night. Oh and the reason is cost $12.00 in Europe for same nasal drug cost here is $220.00. No competitive bargaining for the drugs for anyone in US.
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  51. Jack says:

    The point is they are politicians. They steal, manipulate and LIE. It seems to be ultimate duty of all politicians. ALL OF THEM ARE GUILTY. Example: The folks drawing social security should be drawing at least 6 to 8 thousand a month ( how would that help the economy). We have lived off of a false economy for the last 35 to 40 years. We are in trouble and its hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. If I had my way, all politicians elect would have two year terms. If they represented the PEOPLE OF AMERICA they might get re-elected for another two years. After that they are out. See how many run for office who actually want to represent America and the People instead of how much they can gain for themselves. OBOMA is no different

  52. Kenneth Cameron says:

    The first three words that we learn was WE THE PEOPLE It has become WE THE GOVT. The term should be no more then (2) four years then re-elected only (1) one time!!! Let the people have the say what there money is spent on. At lease that someone that knows what is going on (NOT) FALLING ASLEEP (THEN VOTING ON A BILL THAT THEY GOT PAYED OR WAS ASLEEP).

  53. Ken says:

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  54. Tom Goldsmith says:

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    • Eva Smith says:

      My husband was just informed by our family doctor the he (the doctor) will no longer be able to take medicare patients, but he can however accept Medicaid. This was given to him via Obamacare. He (the doctor) will not do Medicaid.

  55. Tricia says:

    I am sure that you have not looked at the new Medicare plans. The one that I have now more than triples the cost of scripts by stating that one can only get a 30 day supply from a mail order place. The 90 day is cheaper than 3 30days supply because the scripts come in 90 pill bottles and all the pharmacist has to do
    is slap a label on the script and mail it with the inserts. Now they have to count out 30 pills, slap on a label 3 times put the insert in 3 times, and pay the postage 3 times. Duh!
    Also, now the scripts are in tiers so the copays will be more on many scripts.

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